I need help with keys (noob)

[tarvo]

I use eb tuning like Yngwie.. Im just wondering that how shuld i play keys with that tuning? Same as standard?

Lets say Yngwie says that he's gonna improvise in E (with eb tuning ofcourse)
With of those harmonic minors he's gonna play in:

jguitar.com/scale?root=E&scale=Harmonic+Minor&fret=0&labels=letter¬es=sharps&tuning=Half-Step+Down


Or in this:


jguitar.com/scale?root=E&scale=Harmonic+Minor&fret=0&labels=letter¬es=shars


copy those links to address bar or they wont work..

[Paul]

Hey Tarvo,

I answered another thread asking a similar question yeserday. According to "Metal Rhythm Guitar Volume 2" by Troy Stetina, when using Eb tuning you just detune all strings 1/2 a step but still call all the notes the same as before (but you must say your in Eb tuning if transcribing etc.). So if you play a major chord with the root on the 5th in "E tuning" OR in "Eb tuning" you will still call it A Major in both for example.

The only problem will then come if other members of the band are playing backing. As far as I know, if they are currently playing the backing in the C Major scale for example and your playing with the C Major scale with E tuning, once you detune to Eb, they will also have to adjust their backing. So they will play backing in Cb Major.

Maybe its just a case of convincing the Bass player to also detune 1/2 a step too

[queenofshred]

That's kinda annoying, like playing a transposing instrument. Isn't it easier to always call the notes as how they sound, so it doesn't matter what weird and wonderful tuning you use? I play in D minor a lot, so my guitarist downtunes to D (all the strings down one tone from standard) but we always call the notes as they sound, not by what it would be on the same string and fret with standard tuning!

[tarvo]

Yeah, but Yngwie calls them "wrong"...
HE plays E note but actually its Eb..

I think im gonna learn that way too.. But if someone wants to test my pitch sense, il move them in my head..
weird lol