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Post by queenofshred on Sept 1, 2005 2:06:58 GMT -5
well, you'll just have to see what happens. Maybe Yngwie will change in the way that you want, maybe not. I think I'd still like to listen to any future songs that you think of as "recycled old songs" and I don't have a problem with him doing that -- as you well know, Yngwie has to want to change before any change can occur. Just because you want it to happen WILL NOT make it happen (and you'll never stop me from stating the obvious, either). I'm not making a point of disagreeing with you here -- I can see what you're saying and I respect that. I don't think I misunderstood you in the first place -- maybe I didn't express myself clearly. I know that you're talking about how you think you'll feel in the future and I think we'll just have wait and see what happens. I don't know for sure how I will feel about any future releases as it hasn't happened yet, but I'm pretty confident that I would have nothing against him using the same tone, or the same licks. (And now I wait for another reply saying that I still don't understand...)
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Post by alex on Sept 1, 2005 7:40:17 GMT -5
look.... you just dont understand! ...lol, that was a joke.. i understood perfectly what you meant then. i think its me having a problem with, well, as i have stated, and i suppose its ignorant me assuming that if you havent been converted to my POV, then i havent gotten the point across, but your reply explained you did and you just happen to be on the opposite line of opinion, which is perfectly fine  |
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Post by resurrection on Sept 1, 2005 9:59:24 GMT -5
Whrite to Yngwie, Alex, and explain your feelings. ;D
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Post by alex on Sept 1, 2005 11:10:22 GMT -5
Gah?
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Post by queenofshred on Sept 1, 2005 20:11:04 GMT -5
Whrite to Yngwie, Alex, and explain your feelings. ;D rotflmao! Seriously? That is the funniest thing I've heard all day! I'm now trying to imagine what the reply would be... ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by alex on Sept 2, 2005 7:57:38 GMT -5
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mikecloudscape
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Me & Yngwie back in 1996. I do not have long hair anymore;)
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Post by mikecloudscape on Sept 6, 2005 13:52:01 GMT -5
I agree with Alex!!
I LOVE ALL Yngwie albums but, solo-wise he WAS more interesting to listen to especially during the Alcatrazz period. I mean, have you seen the TV filmed live concert with Alcatrazz in Nakano Sun Plaza 1984?? Jesus Christ, he played with such [glow=red,2,300]HUNGER[/glow] and was SOOOOO [glow=red,2,300]inventive[/glow]. Nowadays he plays GREAT but, repetative without using his WIDE abilitys as he did when he was younger. On the other hand he has become better and better as a songwriter. Sure, you can hear elements on his latter albums that reminds of something old but, that´s ok for me as long as the song is GREAT. Compositionwise I don´t think he always sounds the same either. I mean, compare Marching Out with Eclipse. Compare The Seventh sign with Alchemy. Compare Unleash the fury with Fire and ice!! There ain´t much simularities songwise/stylewise between those albums. His albums are quite different from each other. I have noticed one thing thou, 2 releases in a row always reminds of each other stylewise like Attack and Unleash the fury. Same thing goes for The seventh sign and Magnum opus. War to end all wars follows the footsteps of Alchemy. Do you get my point? After 2 albums he always change direction into something new. What I miss right now is an album that reminds of "Eclipse" stylewise. UTF is a GREAT album but, if he´ll stick to his pattern we will expect something new next time.
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Post by fenderbender on Sept 13, 2005 23:20:40 GMT -5
Great point Mike!! I also have noticed the two album similarities, the changes also seem to coincide with band line up changes. I was listening to Marching Out today and noticed loads of chord progressions and structures that are fresh sounding after the last 2 albums. And personally I liked the more "scripted solos" of his earlier albums up to when he got his own studio and lost the pressure of recording time. I get somewhat frustrated with what sounds like senseless noodling on the newer albums. Then again, I always find something really cool and kicking on the new albums, It just doesnt have that "hungry" feel (as you put it) that the older albums had. Eclipse and Fire and Ice had some of the best song content and melodies of all of the albums very solid. Devil in Disguise was very dark feeling even for Yngwie and I absolutely loved it.
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Post by queenofshred on Sept 14, 2005 0:06:02 GMT -5
Hmmm...as far as solos go, I now have the feeling that Yngwie will change his style very soon, the next album infact (you know when you just get that feeling that something's going to happen). That feeling of jumping over the cliff and hoping that there's something to grab onto before hitting the ground, that Yngwie has so often described his solos as, is now getting less and less exciting, as he knows that when he's at the same point on the cliff top, there's a certain number of branches and rocks sticking out in various places for him to grab -- and he knows that they're there. It's not yet like he remembers the exact location of every single one, but he knows enough of them to feel safe. It's got to the point where I know that, before the next album, he's going to want something more dangerous and he'll find a different point to jump from. Soon, very soon... ;D
But as for tone, that's not going to change any time soon. For that to happen, someone will first have to approach him with a new piece of equipment and the line "we have created this to exactly replicate the sound of _ that is no longer in production and we think this closely matches your sound and we'd like your name on it". Ofcourse it will sound slightly different to whatever it's meant to replace and Yngwie will accept it and his tone will then be changed. But this is years away...
I've been told that my predictions of things to come are disturbingly accurate, so watch this space and see if this post comes true.
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Post by ritz on Sept 19, 2005 23:32:21 GMT -5
wowww...what a good posts from u ppl even takes time to read all tho'... very interesting topic. well yea, sometimes i felt the same too but i never get bored with it. basically he played almost the same but in terms of how he produde and express the feelings, i still can understand that. i just love his feelings in his songs which i think no one has it. yes true i do found a lil bit dissapointed in several albums and it is a CRAP! so what??end of story!  UTF is sumthin different. try one more time on : Locked & Loaded - the riffs and how he end his solo Guardian angel - a true yngwie's feelings guys, i'm not good in judging but i just bear with my heart and in my head...its sumthin difficult to explain but thats the truth. hope my post didnt offence anyone here and... i just love yngwie malmsteen |
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Post by alex on Sept 20, 2005 12:26:18 GMT -5
(sort of confused?)
........whats your first language? ritz?
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Post by AJLeadGuitar on Sept 20, 2005 17:02:17 GMT -5
Hmmm...as far as solos go, I now have the feeling that Yngwie will change his style very soon, the next album infact (you know when you just get that feeling that something's going to happen). That feeling of jumping over the cliff and hoping that there's something to grab onto before hitting the ground, that Yngwie has so often described his solos as, is now getting less and less exciting, as he knows that when he's at the same point on the cliff top, there's a certain number of branches and rocks sticking out in various places for him to grab -- and he knows that they're there. It's not yet like he remembers the exact location of every single one, but he knows enough of them to feel safe. It's got to the point where I know that, before the next album, he's going to want something more dangerous and he'll find a different point to jump from. Soon, very soon... ;D But as for tone, that's not going to change any time soon. For that to happen, someone will first have to approach him with a new piece of equipment and the line "we have created this to exactly replicate the sound of _ that is no longer in production and we think this closely matches your sound and we'd like your name on it". Ofcourse it will sound slightly different to whatever it's meant to replace and Yngwie will accept it and his tone will then be changed. But this is years away... I've been told that my predictions of things to come are disturbingly accurate, so watch this space and see if this post comes true. IMO he will continue on the same rout he is going while creating a song, including just sorta "winging" the solo. Yes he puts thought into his solos but he doesn't actaully write it out, he just does his improv deal. As to Rising Force, I'll See The Light Tonight ect.... Which I enjoy a tad more because I think it feels a little more fresh. And I feel that his tone now is a little more gainy and muddy compared to his old tone. It also seems to be a tad harsher too. His old tone (referring to the Alcatrazz, Rising force era) even on the Trail By Fire DVD it shows Yngwie's tone being a less harsh and more of a nice crunch. Watch Trail By Fire then G3.... I think you see what I'm saying. Just my .02 |
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Post by queenofshred on Sept 20, 2005 17:59:46 GMT -5
(sort of confused?) ........whats your first language? ritz? Don't worry, Ritz. I understood you perfectly (better than I sometimes understand Alex lol) ;D And I agree that Yngwie's feelings are a very important part of his music. It's almost as if they're my feelings, too. And that's why I'll always love his music. |
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Post by theroseknight on Sept 20, 2005 19:03:50 GMT -5
Well, I for one not only don't think that he's out of ideas, but I think that he continues to astound and impress. I loved Unleash the Fury, and lyrically, I find it to be his strongest yet!
As for his tone, it has more of an edge to it, but also, there is a lot more dissonance in the music, a practice used by jazz musicians, as well as some modern metal bands. Its a different direction for the maestro, but as with everything else, others try ideas and fail, or only come off rather mediocre, while the maestro makes it work effortlessly.
My vote? Yngwie isn't out of ideas at all.
The Rose Knight
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Post by ritz on Sept 21, 2005 4:23:52 GMT -5
(sort of confused?) ........whats your first language? ritz? oh..sorry for my bad english. answering ur question, my 1st language is Malay. |
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